Star Wars was never science fiction. It has the odd word like "hyperdrive", "ray shield" and "main reactor" in it, but they're just plot devices. Not any science. If anything it's a fantasy.

Dead horse? No, it'll be a dead horse when people stop giving him money. I'm not at all bothered by this latest release, by the way. An animated Star Wars just doesn't appeal.

I agree with everyone.

For me, Star Wars is 3 films from the 70's and 80's, containing (and ruining the career of!)'Uncle Alec'.

Feck knows what those other 3 sorry flicks were, but I preferred my imaginary version of events. The only good thing was seeing Yoda fighting and even that was badly done.

And as for Lego-ising them now, just WTF???

Stop now George, stop draining our imaginations and wallets and fuck off.

Completely agree. Sometimes I feel as if people like George Lucas are playing a game with the public to see how much money people will waste on the dross that he produces (I often feel the same about the music of Gwen Stefani and Mariah Carey). My message to George? Either make a good film, entirely unrelated to Star Wars, afterall enough is enough now or leave us all alone spend your days swimming in a pool of your fortune. .

This is absolute nonsense.

Science Fiction is such a nebulous field that people have been arguing over exactly what what it is for half a dozen decades.

My favourite definition is Damon Knight's "Science Fiction is what we point at when we say 'this is science fiction'

Ray guns, spaceships and robots have always been SFnal tropes. *point* *point* *point*

What it is not, is Mundane SF (Which is an interesting idea, but frankly I prefer the sense of scale and wonder you can only get with decent Mcguffin (timey wimey))

Incidentally, have you heard that original Star Wars (and Matrix) were based on a theory, that all great myths are retelling of one myth?

This explains why the prequals don't live up to the originals. They were already telling the "perfect" myth.

Ooh ooh, I learnt about this in my degree. All civilisations have a foundation myth which actually turns out to be the same one recycled again and again. For instance - Romulus and Remus suckling on the she-wolf etc form the foundation myth for Rome but actually when you look back you see the same themes (e.g. family members, animals playing an important part etc) running throughout every foundation myth in history, at least in the ancient world anyway.

So, my point being, perhaps it's not just sci-fi that replays over and over again but most stories.

There's also a theory that Shakespeare wrote all the best stories (those he didn't himself recycle at least) and that everything since then has been retelling one of his...

But is it nonsense to say that one thing is sci-fi and another isn't? No! I could claim that Home & Away was sci-fi, but that doesn't make it so.. (although didn't the ghost of Bobby appear in a fridge at some point, or is that my addled brain?)

Hehe, you said 'make it so'!

Blimey, Bobby!? Wow! Blast from the past eh?

It was the pantry.

Fridge. I used to watch it back then.

Man I wish I could get you tube at work.